Hi. It looks like the board has been "dead" for quite a while. So, I guess I'm resurrecting it :). Here's my question: I was reading a conversation about a couple of movies, and there were two sentences which caught my attention. One said, "The movie is set in ancient China." and the other said (about a different movie), "The movie takes place in Italy." Am I right in thinking that when we're talking about a movie's being set in a place, we're referring to where the plot takes place, like the movie Mummy (the first one) is set in ancient Egypt, and that when we're talking about where a movie takes place, we're discussing where it has been filmed, so technically, a movie can never take place in ancient China? Correct me, please, if I'm wrong. I'll be grateful.
Zdravo svima! Je li moguće dodati hrvatski jezik na našem siteu? Ja ne vidim razlog da ne može jer već ima npr. bugarski i slovački. Hrvatski mi je najvoljeniji jezik nakon maternjeg bugarskog. A ima li Hrvata na Brain Kingu? Vjerojatno ne bi bilo problem uvesti na siteu i bosanski ili srpski, koje ja također volim.
Artful Dodger: No, I never trust google translate. Unless it's something I was pretty sure about anyway. I just felt it was funny how it was saying the opposite, and the placements of the "not" part of the translation, which changed the meaning to the opposite. I find odd things funny
lizrising: Pedro might be able to help you. I am waiting for his return to continue a few games. I'm sure he'll check out your post when he returns. He has extensive knowledge of many languages, though I do not know if he knows Slovak.
"This was the very hour drive." <----- Is what I got.
I tried Google translate. The words make sense, but without context it looks like gibberish to me too. Are the Slovak words spelled correctly and in proper tense? I was told this language, Czech, and others in this area can be very strict on these things.
fukuhara: Translation Party is a quite amusing application. It translates english phrases into japanese and then back to english. It continues translating between those two languages until it gets same english phrase two times in a row. Phrase in this link is from the description of this board. Experiment with different phrases and you might get some amazing results.
I have very limited knowledge of japanese but i still find this site very good fun. It should be even better if you're fluent in both languages. It really shows how automated translation still has a long way to go.
Milioi, Gouwe gozer: In my opinion, bad translation is always worse than no translation (and the translation of “príjemnú hru” as “enjoyable game” is as bad a translation as one can be). If people want to use Google Translator, so be it, but they should be aware of the fact that they will rarely get a translation of the original sentence, especially in the case of linguistically distant languages.
Změněno uživatelem Gouwe gozer (9. dubna 2010, 02:54:44)
Milioi: I agree with you but I started the same discussion a few months ago too and is hopeless in my opinion Some people here just accept ONLY the most perfect translation and all other translations are wrong, bull or worse so I didn't reply anymore I use " http://imtranslator.com/ " and it gives another different translation. But it gives me the idea what way I have to think about a translation, that's important and enough in my opinion I didn't ask for a perfect line, I asked for a translation, and that's what I receive It is usefull for me
Pedro Martínez: I agree that Google Translate is not perfect, but it is much better to have translation from there, when you do not understand a word. You can at least find out what the sentence could be about. And anyway the translation wasn't so bad this time, was it?
rod03801: Interesting. So native speakers might have different ideas on the same subject. Thanks for your comment, and looking forward to seeing more replies from native speakers. You and your friends may not realize it, but you're of great help to me. I appreciate that.
fukuhara: Perhaps it's wiser to state what I really have in mind rather than try to implicitly make native speakers confirm or reject it:
The tag question must be based on the main verb in the statement and must agree with the subject of the main verb as well, right?
In 1, there's no problem. I know that. But 3, grammatically speaking, is quite parallel with 1. So, again, grammatically speaking, 3 should be well-formed. However, it seems semantically speaking, it sounds odd.
2, on the other hand, seems to be grammatically wrong, at least as far as my knowledge of grammar says. But it seems to be OK to native speakers despite the fact that the tag question is based not on the main verb and its subject, but on the verb used in the embedded clause and its subject.
In other words, I want native speakers to tell me if a tag question can be based on the embedded clauses or not. Here are more examples which may help:
(For the sake of semantic problems, I won't use 'I' to start my sentences)
Statement: He knows you know she went out last night,....?
Possible tag questions:
1) doesn't he? 2) don't you? 3) didn't she?
(My knowledge says only number 1 is OK)
But, if I change the 'he' at the beginning of my statement with 'I', it seems things change:
Statement: I know you know she went out out last night, ...?
1) don't I? 2) don't you? 3) didn't she?
Here, it seems, based on the replies I got, that strikingly number 2 is OK, while nothing has really changed compared with the previous example.
I want natives to comment on my assumptions, please. Just tell me if they sound OK or not. Thanks in advance.